The Five Eyes Countries again ... the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Always in lockstep with one another ... one gets an itch and they all offer to scratch it. And then there are the lawful residents and citizens who mostly all have the same complaints. How coincidental. How ironic. How disturbing. I have said it for years and will not stop saying it, we are in the end times where we will very soon witness and experience widespread wars, famines, and turmoil with great persecution of all Christians.
Impossible to know how long the "end times" will last. The evangelicals in the 70's were reading books that said the actual "end" incl. rapture etc. would come within 40 years of the founding of the State of Israel in 1948. Later amended to 70 years (these numbers representing a "generation" ref. Olivet Discourse). The planetary lineup predicted for the 80's also unleased a slew of "end time" predictions. Others (looking at the New Agers here) thought the end incl. possible Pole Shift would come in the very early 2000's (2002-2003) and then in 2012. So I am sceptical as to whether we will see the actual end in our lifetimes or whether the tired old world will limp on, recover, and then continue its cycles. Makes more sense to expect one's own death to intervene first and to make sure you are ready to die a good death that places you in as good a position as possible for an afterlife, assuming that you believe in that (I do).
Sadly I agree with you and think the world will limp on into truly dystopian times, but it will be slow enough that virtually nothing can be done to stop it. At nearly 80 I may well escape the worst of it but my great-grandchildren are going to inherit a world that we could only have dreamed of in our worst nightmares. And to think I used to be an optimist!
In my relatively short life I have witnessed the destruction of the Kiwi culture and to those who suggest we didn’t have any culture, you missed the best times during the 50’s to the 70’s. I’m glad I had a great childhood, I pity kids now.
I loved growing up in the 80s. We played cricket in the cul-de-sac until it got dark, bullrush at the local park, fish and chips on a Friday night wrapped in newspaper. We’d fish off the beach and actually come home with a feed, wander the rocks, and grab a kina straight out of the rock pools without taking everything in sight. That was just normal life back then.
Grew up in the 1970s, similair kind of childhood - bullrush at school, fish and chips, and off to the various fruit and vege shops to supplement what Dad was growing in the garden. Only instruction after school was do your homework and be home by dinner time.
Yep, totally forgot about the home garden - the old man would sometimes say “everything apart from the meat on your plate was grown in the garden.” The good ol’ days.
Yep, that was the 70s - a great outdoors-focused life, at school we did as much outdoorsy stuff as classroom stuff - it was a great preparation for life. Never saw beggars on the streets, didn't have the racial division, everyone had a job, good food was cheap (milk, bread, meat, veges) and the crap like fizzy was expensive and only had at birthday parties. Education was free, medical treatments were free, we didn't know how good we had it, until the 80s and the start of the downfall.
At age 8 in the mid '60s we would make our own lead sinkers using a Bunsen burner, bike 3 miles to the port at Napier and fished off a wharf. Good luck trying to get into any port these days.
I grew up in rural south Auckland, but regularly had adventures in the Coromandel. Life was pretty simple and summers seemed endless. No consumer goods and technology meant no. 8 wire mentality thrived. We had it so good but just didn’t realise what was around the corner. While there are still enough of us who remember the good times we need to try and save Kiwi culture
Douglas Murray's "The Strange Death of Europe," is worth a read.
"Murray contends that European civilization as it has historically existed will not survive. He explores two factors in explaining this: The first is the combination of mass migration of new peoples into Europe together with its low birth rates; the second is what Murray describes as "the fact that… at the same time Europe lost faith in its beliefs, traditions, and legitimacy"
I’ll be honest, I signed up as a member this year and I’m finding myself leaning more towards them than ACT. I still like both parties, but NZF is at least willing to call out mass immigration and feels far less globalist.
I'm in a similair position as you. I was supporting ACT in 2023, but DS got a bit too carried away with early polling results and started bad mouthing WP and that turned me toward what NZF had to say.
I am not happy when potential coalition partners are bad mouthing each other, rather than articulating why their policy is a better one.
In the end I voted NZF and I am glad I did.
NZF are on the up in polling at present and I am inclined to go with them again, including financial support this time.
Immigration is a key factor and it does need tightening up.
ACT and National are too in love with unrestrained immigration for my liking.
People with PDS thing NZF is a cult and will die when WP retires from politics.
I think Jones has positioned himself well as leader for that eventuality.
It would be great if those two could just get along. If they worked together amicably, they could be a real force, and I imagine WP might have supported parts of DS’s TP Bill if there had been a functional working relationship.
It was Winston who started badmouthing ACT - who is not at all pushing mass-migration. Seymour and Act have achieved much more than any other party. Notice that Shane Jones, who is very active in getting things done, does not join in slagging ACT. We so need both these parties, given Luxon's fundamental failing, that we can ill-afford to exacerbate any rift.
I suggest been going on since WW2, but accelerating all over the West.
I was in the UK, late 80s, early 90s, British decent, family history of fighting for England both world wars, but immigration laws were changed, and i was not automatically eligible to stay long term. Home Office told me no chance, meanwhile UK was accepting the third world, and not deporting criminals.
Each western country is on same path, just different rates of change.
This NZ India trade "deal" is the latest chapter for us. let's hope it gets watered down at least.
I have always thought that Luxon was following the same narrative as Ardern and this confirms it. I asked him multiple times before the election about the WEF and all replies ignored the questions. Every voter needs a a guarantee from the party leaders that they will not continue with this madness before we decide who to vote for.
We need to vote for what is best for NZ and not personal gains.
This is all part of UN Agenda 2030. We need look no further than the UK to see what the intended effects are - the breakdown of social order and cohesion leading to conflict. Divide & conquer. Immigration, the covid scam, wars, repressive legislation ( actual or proposed), false flag shootings around the world, episodes of engineered weather, television, computers, "smart" phones are all part of it. And we have gutless, greedy, corrupt politicians leading down this road. And we let it happen ! FFS, what is wrong with us ? Divide & conquer is working very bloody well. I'm too busy running my own property but I should be out there supporting Mr Tamaki. I think it's high time we collectively got off our arses and showed support for people such as Brian Tamaki. Now, having vented my spleen I seem to recall the good book mentioning such events. I don't subscribe to most of what the bible has to say for the original testaments have been substantially mistranslated for the purposes of manipulation but we are seeing the relevance of some passages. How long before we will be unable to buy or sell without the mark of the beast ?
Not a great fan of The Tucker matey.........He's damaged goods IMHO BUT I agree on immigration. These governments do it to prop up their property market which is where a lot of the "growth" comes from does it not?....Go the other way and you've got the Greens/Maori party/no growth theory. What other solution is there?
Once he began regurgitating Candace Owens’ conspiracy theories, I seriously questioned his judgement. That said, I believe he’s right about the Great Replacement.
The Five Eyes Countries again ... the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Always in lockstep with one another ... one gets an itch and they all offer to scratch it. And then there are the lawful residents and citizens who mostly all have the same complaints. How coincidental. How ironic. How disturbing. I have said it for years and will not stop saying it, we are in the end times where we will very soon witness and experience widespread wars, famines, and turmoil with great persecution of all Christians.
Impossible to know how long the "end times" will last. The evangelicals in the 70's were reading books that said the actual "end" incl. rapture etc. would come within 40 years of the founding of the State of Israel in 1948. Later amended to 70 years (these numbers representing a "generation" ref. Olivet Discourse). The planetary lineup predicted for the 80's also unleased a slew of "end time" predictions. Others (looking at the New Agers here) thought the end incl. possible Pole Shift would come in the very early 2000's (2002-2003) and then in 2012. So I am sceptical as to whether we will see the actual end in our lifetimes or whether the tired old world will limp on, recover, and then continue its cycles. Makes more sense to expect one's own death to intervene first and to make sure you are ready to die a good death that places you in as good a position as possible for an afterlife, assuming that you believe in that (I do).
Sadly I agree with you and think the world will limp on into truly dystopian times, but it will be slow enough that virtually nothing can be done to stop it. At nearly 80 I may well escape the worst of it but my great-grandchildren are going to inherit a world that we could only have dreamed of in our worst nightmares. And to think I used to be an optimist!
Bang on, Kiwigirl. Five Eyes. Happy New Year to you and hubby!
In my relatively short life I have witnessed the destruction of the Kiwi culture and to those who suggest we didn’t have any culture, you missed the best times during the 50’s to the 70’s. I’m glad I had a great childhood, I pity kids now.
I loved growing up in the 80s. We played cricket in the cul-de-sac until it got dark, bullrush at the local park, fish and chips on a Friday night wrapped in newspaper. We’d fish off the beach and actually come home with a feed, wander the rocks, and grab a kina straight out of the rock pools without taking everything in sight. That was just normal life back then.
Grew up in the 1970s, similair kind of childhood - bullrush at school, fish and chips, and off to the various fruit and vege shops to supplement what Dad was growing in the garden. Only instruction after school was do your homework and be home by dinner time.
Yep, totally forgot about the home garden - the old man would sometimes say “everything apart from the meat on your plate was grown in the garden.” The good ol’ days.
Yep, that was the 70s - a great outdoors-focused life, at school we did as much outdoorsy stuff as classroom stuff - it was a great preparation for life. Never saw beggars on the streets, didn't have the racial division, everyone had a job, good food was cheap (milk, bread, meat, veges) and the crap like fizzy was expensive and only had at birthday parties. Education was free, medical treatments were free, we didn't know how good we had it, until the 80s and the start of the downfall.
At age 8 in the mid '60s we would make our own lead sinkers using a Bunsen burner, bike 3 miles to the port at Napier and fished off a wharf. Good luck trying to get into any port these days.
I grew up in rural south Auckland, but regularly had adventures in the Coromandel. Life was pretty simple and summers seemed endless. No consumer goods and technology meant no. 8 wire mentality thrived. We had it so good but just didn’t realise what was around the corner. While there are still enough of us who remember the good times we need to try and save Kiwi culture
Douglas Murray's "The Strange Death of Europe," is worth a read.
"Murray contends that European civilization as it has historically existed will not survive. He explores two factors in explaining this: The first is the combination of mass migration of new peoples into Europe together with its low birth rates; the second is what Murray describes as "the fact that… at the same time Europe lost faith in its beliefs, traditions, and legitimacy"
Thank you! Just ordered a copy.
Locally.. a vote for NZFirst is something we CAN ALL DO about it. Just a step, but a proactive one.
I’ll be honest, I signed up as a member this year and I’m finding myself leaning more towards them than ACT. I still like both parties, but NZF is at least willing to call out mass immigration and feels far less globalist.
Yep Winnie always has his eye on the workers, not globalist businesses
Me too of course.
I'm in a similair position as you. I was supporting ACT in 2023, but DS got a bit too carried away with early polling results and started bad mouthing WP and that turned me toward what NZF had to say.
I am not happy when potential coalition partners are bad mouthing each other, rather than articulating why their policy is a better one.
In the end I voted NZF and I am glad I did.
NZF are on the up in polling at present and I am inclined to go with them again, including financial support this time.
Immigration is a key factor and it does need tightening up.
ACT and National are too in love with unrestrained immigration for my liking.
People with PDS thing NZF is a cult and will die when WP retires from politics.
I think Jones has positioned himself well as leader for that eventuality.
It would be great if those two could just get along. If they worked together amicably, they could be a real force, and I imagine WP might have supported parts of DS’s TP Bill if there had been a functional working relationship.
It was Winston who started badmouthing ACT - who is not at all pushing mass-migration. Seymour and Act have achieved much more than any other party. Notice that Shane Jones, who is very active in getting things done, does not join in slagging ACT. We so need both these parties, given Luxon's fundamental failing, that we can ill-afford to exacerbate any rift.
Thanks, I will watch this on the weekend.
I suggest been going on since WW2, but accelerating all over the West.
I was in the UK, late 80s, early 90s, British decent, family history of fighting for England both world wars, but immigration laws were changed, and i was not automatically eligible to stay long term. Home Office told me no chance, meanwhile UK was accepting the third world, and not deporting criminals.
Each western country is on same path, just different rates of change.
This NZ India trade "deal" is the latest chapter for us. let's hope it gets watered down at least.
I have always thought that Luxon was following the same narrative as Ardern and this confirms it. I asked him multiple times before the election about the WEF and all replies ignored the questions. Every voter needs a a guarantee from the party leaders that they will not continue with this madness before we decide who to vote for.
We need to vote for what is best for NZ and not personal gains.
This is all part of UN Agenda 2030. We need look no further than the UK to see what the intended effects are - the breakdown of social order and cohesion leading to conflict. Divide & conquer. Immigration, the covid scam, wars, repressive legislation ( actual or proposed), false flag shootings around the world, episodes of engineered weather, television, computers, "smart" phones are all part of it. And we have gutless, greedy, corrupt politicians leading down this road. And we let it happen ! FFS, what is wrong with us ? Divide & conquer is working very bloody well. I'm too busy running my own property but I should be out there supporting Mr Tamaki. I think it's high time we collectively got off our arses and showed support for people such as Brian Tamaki. Now, having vented my spleen I seem to recall the good book mentioning such events. I don't subscribe to most of what the bible has to say for the original testaments have been substantially mistranslated for the purposes of manipulation but we are seeing the relevance of some passages. How long before we will be unable to buy or sell without the mark of the beast ?
Not a great fan of The Tucker matey.........He's damaged goods IMHO BUT I agree on immigration. These governments do it to prop up their property market which is where a lot of the "growth" comes from does it not?....Go the other way and you've got the Greens/Maori party/no growth theory. What other solution is there?
Once he began regurgitating Candace Owens’ conspiracy theories, I seriously questioned his judgement. That said, I believe he’s right about the Great Replacement.