Mine went through school back then too, I wanted to home school them then. They also played sports (a known hangout for sexual predators) and did other after school activities such as Girl Guides, Scouts (again, all known hangouts for sexual offenders). Basically we don't know who or where these scum turn up. They could be family members (one of the most likely). But I don't believe that insulting the teachers who are good and put in the extra hours unpaid, and refusing to pay them equitably, is the right thing to do. You can't tar everyone with the same brush, because of a few.
See I think the problem is that they are being paid equitably. We are also in a cost of living crisis. Our household (because I am currently awaiting a new hip) exists on half what 75% of teachers would be on if they took what is being offered to them by the government. I refer you to this great article by Ani O’Brien https://open.substack.com/pub/aniobrien/p/the-struggle-to-govern-in-an-entrenched?r=130mwd&utm_medium=ios
In any dispute like this the “good” get tarred with the “bad” - but now is not the time to hold the country to ransom - in my opinion and many others. I’d love to hear decent teachers speak out against this but they can’t because the vocation is riddled with activists and basically sick lazy bludgers
Well, none of the teachers I know (quite a few!) are sick lazy bludgers. They ALL work over and above the hours they are paid for. For a profession that requires at minimum a 3-tear teaching degree, and the expectation that further education will be pursued, as well as expected to do extra-curricular activities, and continuing education, while you and others think they are on "holiday", they are unable to earn even $100k because of the structure of public service salaries. While, for example, someone working in the private sector, is not limited by that. A backbench MP with absolutely no education earns more than a teacher with 20+ years experience.
I don’t disagree and trained as a teacher myself Karin. I have many friends and family that are teachers as well. However the vocation as truly lost sight of what an important role they play in shaping young minds and intellects. I have sat around the table with far too many teachers whose parents wanted them to do a degree - they didn’t want to but ended up studying to be teachers - but it’s just a job - they are lazy and disrespectful of the role they have and many more have major drug issues. For years classroom sizes were too large yes - but many I know agree that teacher only days should be during paid holidays. I have worked in schools over the last decade and watched teachers on their phones in the playground and mostly content to supervise rather than participate or teach. However that is not all teachers by any stretch. Did you read the article about how many will be earning $100k plus?? I think you are taking an extreme view of my opinion- not all teachers are lazy… but a growing proportion seem to be
This is horrifying and so frustrating!! I drove to work at 8.15 this morning (yes ladies hours at the moment) I pass 4 schools and the hospital. Not one striker waving a placard. I suppose they all had a sleep in. Any respect for the teaching profession ebbs away with each case.
Possibly more serious than hundreds of convicted teachers, is the nasty crap teachers dish out weekly to children from primary to high school ages. Our village primary school teaches about sexual threesomes, how to put on a condom and transgenderism. No wonder more people homeschool.
This sort of behavior has been going on for a long time. Back in the 90's Mary Kay Letouneau groomed and had children to her student when he was only 14/15. She seemed to not care about the consequences to her husband and children, only to carry on with the abuse when she was on parole.
There seems to be a mental problem with these women? It's like serial killers, most are male, but when a woman pops up, it seems completely out of the norm.
I experienced a late 20's female teacher being inappropriate with my then 12 year, near 13 year, old nephew. I found out she was e-mailing him messages that anyone reading them would have thought were written by a 12 year old girl who had a "crush" on him. She also sent him a link to a heavy metal song that she wanted him to listen to, copying certain words from the lyrics into the e-mail message, which would make a 1 year old blush and that needed no interpretation as to what her intentions and desires towards him were. When parents or caregivers complain to the Ministry of Education - Wellington or their closest regional office - they're told that state schools in New Zealand are "self governing", that they're not going to get involved, and that you must complain to the school.
It's so sickening and I am stoked my 3 granddaughters are homeschooled.
When I went to the petrol station today, the lovely young man serving me said he was a bit gutted the teachers were doing their strike now, as he is right in the middle of exams! He spent his day off working. I thought couldn't the teachers have thought about the timing a little more as so many other young people are in such an important part of their year! A bit bloody selfish really.
Whether there are teachers who are paedophiles does not mean that teachers in general should not receive adequate pay for the work they do. That is equivalent to saying that no one in any occupation should be paid for the work they do, because there are sexual predators everywhere, actually. Teachers get an appalling amount of recompense for the work they put in, in the most part. As in all service occupations such as fire fighters, nurses, doctors, home care workers, etc etc. That is why they are all striking.
I feel quite ill reading this…
Marxism
Gender dysphoria…cat litter in classrooms
Spitting at David Seymour..
Waving Palestinian flags
Revisionist history
Told my kids recently they were lucky that they went through school in the ‘90s…cos I would have homeschooled them today…
Mine went through school back then too, I wanted to home school them then. They also played sports (a known hangout for sexual predators) and did other after school activities such as Girl Guides, Scouts (again, all known hangouts for sexual offenders). Basically we don't know who or where these scum turn up. They could be family members (one of the most likely). But I don't believe that insulting the teachers who are good and put in the extra hours unpaid, and refusing to pay them equitably, is the right thing to do. You can't tar everyone with the same brush, because of a few.
See I think the problem is that they are being paid equitably. We are also in a cost of living crisis. Our household (because I am currently awaiting a new hip) exists on half what 75% of teachers would be on if they took what is being offered to them by the government. I refer you to this great article by Ani O’Brien https://open.substack.com/pub/aniobrien/p/the-struggle-to-govern-in-an-entrenched?r=130mwd&utm_medium=ios
In any dispute like this the “good” get tarred with the “bad” - but now is not the time to hold the country to ransom - in my opinion and many others. I’d love to hear decent teachers speak out against this but they can’t because the vocation is riddled with activists and basically sick lazy bludgers
Well, none of the teachers I know (quite a few!) are sick lazy bludgers. They ALL work over and above the hours they are paid for. For a profession that requires at minimum a 3-tear teaching degree, and the expectation that further education will be pursued, as well as expected to do extra-curricular activities, and continuing education, while you and others think they are on "holiday", they are unable to earn even $100k because of the structure of public service salaries. While, for example, someone working in the private sector, is not limited by that. A backbench MP with absolutely no education earns more than a teacher with 20+ years experience.
Now, those are the sick lazy bludgers!
I don’t disagree and trained as a teacher myself Karin. I have many friends and family that are teachers as well. However the vocation as truly lost sight of what an important role they play in shaping young minds and intellects. I have sat around the table with far too many teachers whose parents wanted them to do a degree - they didn’t want to but ended up studying to be teachers - but it’s just a job - they are lazy and disrespectful of the role they have and many more have major drug issues. For years classroom sizes were too large yes - but many I know agree that teacher only days should be during paid holidays. I have worked in schools over the last decade and watched teachers on their phones in the playground and mostly content to supervise rather than participate or teach. However that is not all teachers by any stretch. Did you read the article about how many will be earning $100k plus?? I think you are taking an extreme view of my opinion- not all teachers are lazy… but a growing proportion seem to be
This is horrifying and so frustrating!! I drove to work at 8.15 this morning (yes ladies hours at the moment) I pass 4 schools and the hospital. Not one striker waving a placard. I suppose they all had a sleep in. Any respect for the teaching profession ebbs away with each case.
Possibly more serious than hundreds of convicted teachers, is the nasty crap teachers dish out weekly to children from primary to high school ages. Our village primary school teaches about sexual threesomes, how to put on a condom and transgenderism. No wonder more people homeschool.
Only two words for this: Yuk, Ouch!
Well written indictment.
This sort of behavior has been going on for a long time. Back in the 90's Mary Kay Letouneau groomed and had children to her student when he was only 14/15. She seemed to not care about the consequences to her husband and children, only to carry on with the abuse when she was on parole.
There seems to be a mental problem with these women? It's like serial killers, most are male, but when a woman pops up, it seems completely out of the norm.
I experienced a late 20's female teacher being inappropriate with my then 12 year, near 13 year, old nephew. I found out she was e-mailing him messages that anyone reading them would have thought were written by a 12 year old girl who had a "crush" on him. She also sent him a link to a heavy metal song that she wanted him to listen to, copying certain words from the lyrics into the e-mail message, which would make a 1 year old blush and that needed no interpretation as to what her intentions and desires towards him were. When parents or caregivers complain to the Ministry of Education - Wellington or their closest regional office - they're told that state schools in New Zealand are "self governing", that they're not going to get involved, and that you must complain to the school.
I moved my nephew to a different school.
It's so sickening and I am stoked my 3 granddaughters are homeschooled.
When I went to the petrol station today, the lovely young man serving me said he was a bit gutted the teachers were doing their strike now, as he is right in the middle of exams! He spent his day off working. I thought couldn't the teachers have thought about the timing a little more as so many other young people are in such an important part of their year! A bit bloody selfish really.
Whether there are teachers who are paedophiles does not mean that teachers in general should not receive adequate pay for the work they do. That is equivalent to saying that no one in any occupation should be paid for the work they do, because there are sexual predators everywhere, actually. Teachers get an appalling amount of recompense for the work they put in, in the most part. As in all service occupations such as fire fighters, nurses, doctors, home care workers, etc etc. That is why they are all striking.