The more I read about the Moriori genocide, the more sickened I become by the sheer brutality of it. What they did was utterly savage - and yet, you’re right, no one dares talk about it.
Now look at the Patupaiarehe Turehu Ngati Hotu (wiped out proudly by Tuwharetoa)…
There were other people here long before Maori - Waitaha as well…they butchered them in huge numbers - ate them etc… all the bones were ground for fertiliser in Mt Eden in the early 1900… it just goes on…
I first read about this genocide as an adult and wondered why way back in my 60’s education it was not referred to. Eliminated for what reason? As a young adult I lived in Marlborough and heard talk of the Wairau Massacre, then renamed ‘incident’. Let’s stop removing or rewriting history, we as a nation need to know it and learn from it. EVERYONE needs to own their honest to God history, good or bad, not based on the colour of their skin. The Moriori were victims of Maori hatred. In the documents I have studied, totally due to their skin colour and passive nature. I find that shocking and deplorable. The tribes responsible need to accept their part in this genocide.
I haven’t stopped reading about it over the past few days, and I’ve added a few books to my Trade Me watchlist. It’s definitely history that shouldn’t be overlooked or forgotten.
Totally agree, if we are going to have our historical errors flung in our face as evidence of our racism then let’s make it a level playing field especially in the education system. Colonialism isn’t just a white culture
More truths from you thank you. Living in Taranaki I was very aware of the debacle at Parihaka which was a peaceful resistance movement some 90 yrs before Ghandi came up with the idea. Bryce must have been an idiot to have come up with the concept of invading and sacking a peaceful Marxist-Communist arrangement like that. It just needed to be left alone. Anyway....
I only learned about Ngati Mutunga a few months ago. Well, I knew about how the Moriori were decimated but didn't know by whom. But Ngati Mutunga received a pay-out form us all of nearly $15 million plus lands etc in Nth Taranaki around Urenui. You often wonder who exactly gets their hands on the loot. You get the feeling that even when it's all done and dusted there is never a feeling any kind of gratitude or mihi involved at all. It's always a guarded resentment.
Like giving in to a two year old's tantrums............
Not only were they savages and extremely cruel they were cunning. These traits of maori continue today but i feel they will have no problem turning on each other as the greed takes over.
Saw all this in 1980's on the Aboriginal Lands in Central Australia. Money there mostly came from the Sth Australian government. Not only Aboriginal lands, almost all jurisdictions in inland Australia are funded "from the coast" and the local councils were as corrupt as hell too but on "The Lands" all money was managed by a white manager. This was to prevent total, visible corruption but the manager knew how to distribute the funds. The most powerful families ended up with the Toyotas and the homelands.........greed and avarice.......
For Maori genocide was normal. One example of many: Te Rauparaha & allies genocided Maori from Kaikoura to Rakaia, including Banks Peninsula. It was a blood-bath.
Well said Matua. We must be vocal in remembering Maori genocide of Moriori and that slavery, cannibalism and constant fighting were normal behaviours for Maori.
The reason Ngati Mutanga and Ngati Tama invaded the Chatham Islands was because they were being attacked by Te Rauparaha and Ngati Toa who had been kicked out southern Waikato. The musket caused major upheavals in amongst the tribes of the North Island.
Reading Ron Crosby's books on the Muskets Wars is very enlightening. Never ending tribal warfare was a contributing factor to the decision of Rangatira in 1840, to accept the terms of and sign the Treaty of Waitangi.
Te Mahanga of Ngati Wai traveled to England in 1806 to England and seen the kind of society under a single government and one law for all.
Other Maori had travelled to Australia.
Perhaps upon their return they had shared their experiences and offered a glimpse into the future of what potentially lay ahead for their people.
Current day 'leaders', plus the separatists and grifters seems more inclined towards a power grab, land and other resources grab for themselves. Only their whanau seem to be the beneficiaries so far if the experience of exclusive raced based funding and entity creation under the 2020 to 2023 Labour Govt is anything to go by.
For example the exposure of the grift of the Mahuta, Henare and others connected to Labour is anything to go by.
You write the inconvenient truth, Matua, but it doesn’t fit the narrative needed by those activist Māori feeding at the sympathy trough.
The more I read about the Moriori genocide, the more sickened I become by the sheer brutality of it. What they did was utterly savage - and yet, you’re right, no one dares talk about it.
Too right.
Now look at the Patupaiarehe Turehu Ngati Hotu (wiped out proudly by Tuwharetoa)…
There were other people here long before Maori - Waitaha as well…they butchered them in huge numbers - ate them etc… all the bones were ground for fertiliser in Mt Eden in the early 1900… it just goes on…
Moa? Haast Eagle?
Yes- and some haven’t progressed beyond the savagery, continuing the violence within their own whanau.
Well…Maori pride themselves on their “unique” dna - I guess it could be in the dna..the savage brutality towards other humans
I first read about this genocide as an adult and wondered why way back in my 60’s education it was not referred to. Eliminated for what reason? As a young adult I lived in Marlborough and heard talk of the Wairau Massacre, then renamed ‘incident’. Let’s stop removing or rewriting history, we as a nation need to know it and learn from it. EVERYONE needs to own their honest to God history, good or bad, not based on the colour of their skin. The Moriori were victims of Maori hatred. In the documents I have studied, totally due to their skin colour and passive nature. I find that shocking and deplorable. The tribes responsible need to accept their part in this genocide.
I haven’t stopped reading about it over the past few days, and I’ve added a few books to my Trade Me watchlist. It’s definitely history that shouldn’t be overlooked or forgotten.
Totally agree, if we are going to have our historical errors flung in our face as evidence of our racism then let’s make it a level playing field especially in the education system. Colonialism isn’t just a white culture
More truths from you thank you. Living in Taranaki I was very aware of the debacle at Parihaka which was a peaceful resistance movement some 90 yrs before Ghandi came up with the idea. Bryce must have been an idiot to have come up with the concept of invading and sacking a peaceful Marxist-Communist arrangement like that. It just needed to be left alone. Anyway....
I only learned about Ngati Mutunga a few months ago. Well, I knew about how the Moriori were decimated but didn't know by whom. But Ngati Mutunga received a pay-out form us all of nearly $15 million plus lands etc in Nth Taranaki around Urenui. You often wonder who exactly gets their hands on the loot. You get the feeling that even when it's all done and dusted there is never a feeling any kind of gratitude or mihi involved at all. It's always a guarded resentment.
Like giving in to a two year old's tantrums............
Not only were they savages and extremely cruel they were cunning. These traits of maori continue today but i feel they will have no problem turning on each other as the greed takes over.
Saw all this in 1980's on the Aboriginal Lands in Central Australia. Money there mostly came from the Sth Australian government. Not only Aboriginal lands, almost all jurisdictions in inland Australia are funded "from the coast" and the local councils were as corrupt as hell too but on "The Lands" all money was managed by a white manager. This was to prevent total, visible corruption but the manager knew how to distribute the funds. The most powerful families ended up with the Toyotas and the homelands.........greed and avarice.......
For Maori genocide was normal. One example of many: Te Rauparaha & allies genocided Maori from Kaikoura to Rakaia, including Banks Peninsula. It was a blood-bath.
Well said Matua. We must be vocal in remembering Maori genocide of Moriori and that slavery, cannibalism and constant fighting were normal behaviours for Maori.
The reason Ngati Mutanga and Ngati Tama invaded the Chatham Islands was because they were being attacked by Te Rauparaha and Ngati Toa who had been kicked out southern Waikato. The musket caused major upheavals in amongst the tribes of the North Island.
Yep yep yep, truth hurts.
Reading Ron Crosby's books on the Muskets Wars is very enlightening. Never ending tribal warfare was a contributing factor to the decision of Rangatira in 1840, to accept the terms of and sign the Treaty of Waitangi.
Te Mahanga of Ngati Wai traveled to England in 1806 to England and seen the kind of society under a single government and one law for all.
Other Maori had travelled to Australia.
Perhaps upon their return they had shared their experiences and offered a glimpse into the future of what potentially lay ahead for their people.
Current day 'leaders', plus the separatists and grifters seems more inclined towards a power grab, land and other resources grab for themselves. Only their whanau seem to be the beneficiaries so far if the experience of exclusive raced based funding and entity creation under the 2020 to 2023 Labour Govt is anything to go by.
For example the exposure of the grift of the Mahuta, Henare and others connected to Labour is anything to go by.
It bodes ill for the future.